SHOULD THE CHURCH TEACH TITHING?

FLOYD, RONNIE: TITHING REBUTTAL

Should the Church Teach Tithing?
ARTICLES
BAPTIST ERRORS
BLOGSPOT BLOG LIST SINCE 2005
BUY BOOKS AND VIDEO
ENDORSEMENTS
FIRSTFRUITS WERE NEVER TITHES
REBUTTALS OF TITHE-TEACHERS
RUSSELL EARL KELLY, PHD
SEARCH INDEX
THEOLOGIANS AND HISTORIANS WHO AGREE
INTRODUCTION
1. Origin and Definition of Tithing
2. Genesis 14:20 Abraham, Melchizedek, Arab Custom and Tithing
3. Genesis 28:22 Jacob's Bargain With God
4. Numbers 18: The Obscure Statute/Ordinance of Tithing
5. Leviticus 27:30-34 Tithing and Holy and Most Holy Statutes
6. Tithes Replaced Land Inheritance
7. How Many Tithes? 10%, 20%, or 23 1/3rd%?
8. Deuteronomy 12 and 14: Strange Facts about Tithing
9. The Poor and Jesus Did Not Tithe
10. Kings, Tithes and Taxes: Levites with Political Jobs
11. 2nd Chronicles 31 Explains Malachi
12. Nehemiah 10-13: Historical Context of Malachi
13a. Commentary on Malachi 1 and 2: Cursing the Priests for Stealing
13b. Malachi 3 and 4
14. Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42 Supporting the Old Covenant and Its Interpreters
15. Luke 18:12 A Pharisee's Boast about Tithing
16. Acts 15 and 21: Compromise Divided the Jerusalem Church
17. Hebrews 8; 2nd Corinthians 3; A Better New Covenant; MARTIN LUTHER
18. The Mosaic Law and the "Law" of Christ; MATT 5:17-19
19. Hebrews 7: Extremely Important
20. Ephesians 2:14-16; Colossians 2:13-17: Law Ordinances Ended
21. 1 Peter 2:9-10: Your Priesthood Abolishes Tithing
22. 1 Corinthians 9: Using Christian Liberty to Refuse Christian Rights [2007]
23. 1 Corinthians 16: Principles for Giving to the Needy
24. 1 Timothy 5:17: Worthy of Double Honor
25. Miscellaneous Objections
26. Chafer and Walvoord on New Covenant Giving
27. 2 Corinthians 8 and 9: Principles of Grace Giving
28. Acts 20:16-35: Paul's Sermon is Not Preached
29. Secular History of Tithing
30. Tithing Principles for Tithe-Teaching Churches
31. Spreading the Gospel
BIBLIOGRAPHY AND PAGE #
58% of Evangelical Leaders Reject Tithing, April 2011
140 QUESTIONS FOR TITHE ADVOCATES
1873: TITHING FIRST SUGGESTED IN USA
20% OF SBC PASTORS AND 31% OF OTHER PASTORS AGREE
ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS BOOK
AKIN, DANIEL: TITHING
ALCORN, RANDY: TITHING REBUTTAL
ANTI-TITHING VIDEOS
ASSEMBLY OF GOD TITHING REBUTTAL
BACKLASH AGAINST TITHING, WALL STREET JOURNAL
BAKER, ROBERT A: TITHING; SBC HISTORIAN
BAKER'S EVANGELICAL DICTIONARY: TITHING
BAPTIST TITHING STATEMENTS OF FAITH UNTIL 1963
BARCLAY, WILLIAM: TITHING REBUTTAL
BLACK, DAVID ALAN, TH. D.; SBC THEOLOGIAN: TITHING
BROWN, TOM: WOF MINISTRIES
BURKETT, LARRY AND DAYTON, HOWARD; CROWN MINISTRIES: TITHING
CALVIN, JOHN: TITHING
CAMERON, BARRY: TITHING REBUTTAL
CARSON, D A: TITHING
CARTOON: TITHING
CBS TRANSCRIPT: TO TITHE OR NOT TO TITHE
CHEUNG, VINCENT: TITHING REBUTTAL
CHRISTIAN TODAY, TITHING, 2016
CHRISTIAN TORAH: TITHING
CHURCH OF SCOTLAND: TITHING
CONNER, KEVIN J; TITHING REBUTTAL
COPELAND, KENNETH; TITHING REBUTTAL
CORBAN AND FIRSTFRUIT-TITHING
CROTEAU, DAVID, PHD: TITHING
DANA, H E: SOUTHERN BAPTIST HISTORIAN: TITHING
DEJONG, PAUL: TITHING REBUTTAL
DOLLAR, CREFLO: TITHING REBUTTAL
Et essay: Tiende er ikke en kristen lære
Dizimar não é uma doutrina cristã
Un ensayo: el diezmar no es una doctrina cristiana
EVANS, TONY
EZEKIEL'S TEMPLE: NO TITHING
FLOYD, RONNIE: TITHING REBUTTAL
GEORGE, WILLIE; TITHING REBUTTAL
GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION
GRACE-GIVING CHURCHES
GRAHAM, BILLY: TITHING REBUTTAL
GRAHAM, FRANKLIN: SALARY-TITHING
GREIMANN, DEAN ON TITHING REBUTTAL
HAGEE, JOHN: TITHING REBUTTAL
HANNESSY, SHAWN, TITHING REBUTTAL
HAYFORD, JACK; TITHING REBUTTAL
HEMPHILL, KENNETH, TITHING; SBC SPOKESMAN
KEN HEMPHILL AND BOBBY EKLUND
HINN, BENNY: TITHING
HOUSTON, BRIAN: HILLSONG, TITHING REBUTTAL
HOW TO BECOME A PROSPERITY PREACHER
If We Don't Preach Tithing, How Do We Pay the Church Bills?
JAKES, TD; 49 LIES TOLD ABOUT TITHING
JEREMIAH, DAVID: TITHING REBUTTAL
JEWISH TITHING CONCEPTS
JOYNER, RICK: TITHING REBUTTAL
KENDALL, R T: TITHING REBUTTAL
KENNEDY, JAMES, PHD: TITHING
KOSTENBERGER, ANDREAS: 12-4-2007: TITHING
"LAW" IN THE BIBLE
LAWLESS, CHUCK: TITHING REBUTTAL
LETTER TO YOUR PASTOR ABOUT TITHING
LINKS: SITES AND BOOKS
LIST OF TITHING OPPONENTS THROUGHOUT HISTORY
LIST OF UNSCRIPTURAL BAPTIST TITHING ERRORS
LONDON DEBATE: POINT BY POINT COMMENTS: TITHING
LUTHER, MARTIN REJECTED TITHING: 1525
MALACHI 3:10 HAS BEEN MISINTERPRETED
MALACHI 3:10: THE TEST-GOD TITHE MYTH
MARINELLI, CHAD: TITHING REBUTTAL
MARTIN, ERNEST L; THE TITHING DILEMMA
MATTHEW 5:17-19
MAXWELL, JOHN C: TITHING REBUTTAL
MELCHIZEDEK: WAS HE A PAGAN GENTILE?
MEYER, ALLAN: TITHING REBUTTAL
MONEY WITH GENTILE IMAGES WAS BANNED
MORRIS, ROBERT: TITHING REBUTTAL
MORMON-LDS TITHING REBUTTAL
NORTH, GARY COVENANTAL TITHE
NORTH, GARY PERSPECTIVES ON TITHING
NORTH, GARY WIKIPEDIA: TITHING
OWEN, JOHN --DID NOT TEACH TITHING
PAGAN CHRISTIANITY: BOOK REVIEW: TITHING
PINK, A W: TITHING REBUTTAL
PIPER, JOHN: TITHING REBUTTAL
PREACHERS, EVANGELISTS AND THEOLOGIANS SPEAK OUT
PRINCE, JOSEPH: TITHING
PROSPERITY GOSPEL: AVANZINI PLUS
PROSPERITY GOSPEL: Jones and Woodbridge
PROSPERITY GOSPEL: TITHING
RAMSEY, DAVE: TITHING REBUTTAL
RHODE ISLAND BAPTISTS: 1638-1770S: TITHING
RICH PREACHERS WHO TEACH TITHING
ROBERTSON, NORMAN: TITHING REBUTTAL
ROGERS, ADRIAN: Tithing REBUTTAL
ROGERS, ROD: TITHING REBUTTAL
ROSS, CHARLES: TITHING REBUTTAL
SBC CHURCH WANTS YOUR BANK ROUTING NUMBER FOR TITHE
SBC POSITION PAPER FORCES EMPLOYEES TO TEACH TITHING
SBC SCHOLARS: THEOLOGIANS AND HISTORIANS WHO AGREE
SCHREINER, THOMAS R, PHD, SBTS, TITHING
SHAFFER, GLENN: TITHING REBUTTAL
TITHING LIES: SIX MOST COMMON
SOUTHERN BAPTIST ENCYCLOPEDIA: TITHING
SOUTHERN BAPTIST TITHING BROCHURES
SPROUL, R C: TITHING
SPURGEON, CHARLES H
ST PETERSBURG TIMES
STOREHOUSE TITHING
SUBMISSION THEOLOGY: REBUTTAL
SWAZILAND, POVERTY, AND PROSPERITY PREACHERS
SWINDOLL, CHARLES (CHUCK): TITHING
TBN: THE CROUCHES: TITHING REBUTTAL
INDEX TEXT FOR 2007 EDITION
TITHING THEOLOGICAL DOUBLE-TALK
TITHE MAPS IN 18TH CENTURY EUROPE
TITHES: NEW ADVENT CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA
TITHING ABUSE STORIES
TITHE AND OFFERING SCRIPTURES.COM/LEON
WALL STREET JOURNAL: TITHING, KELLY LETTER
WARREN, RICK : TITHING REBUTTAL
WE ARE NOT ALONE: VERY STRONG SUPPORT
Web Sites Which Discuss This Book and Tithing
WESLEY, JOHN: TITHING
Where in the Bible Were Tithes Abolished?
WIDOW'S MITE: TITHING
WOODWARD, GEOFF: TITHING REBUTTAL
WYCLIFFE DICTIONARY OF THEOLOGY; F F BRUCE: TITHING
WYTSMA, KEN: TITHING REBUTTAL
YOUNG, ED: TITHING REBUTTAL

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Should the Church Teach Tithing?
A Theologian's Conclusions about a Taboo Doctrine
Russell Earl Kelly, PHD

 

Errors in Ronnie Floyd’s Article on Tithing, 9-15-15

By Russell Earl Kelly, PHD

1. He gives zero Bible texts. This is wrong.

2. He defines tithes wrong. While money was common, HOLY tithes (as the word is used by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus) were always only food from inside God’s holy land. It could not come from outside Israel, from Gentiles, or from non-food items (Lev 27:30-34; Num 18:20-28; Mal 3:10; Mt 23:23)

3. He says tithing is not taboo. Yet openly discussing tithing is a taboo subject inside SBC schools and churches. Proof: Floyd and other pastor will not enter comprehensive extended dialogs. It is only a bully-pulpit subject.

4. He says that tithing is a “very important part of the Christian life.” Yet, The SBC Faith and Messasge does not contain the word and there are no tithing commands to the church after Calvary.

5. He says that generosity is the amount beyond the first tenth. The post-Calvary grace and faith giving principles for the church include sacrificial and generous giving (2 Cor 8, 9).

6. He says that greed is practiced by non-tithers. Yet greed is evident when so-called tithe recipients also own property and amass wealth contrary to O.T. tithing principles (Num 18:20-28).

7. He equates firstfruits with tithes. However, firstfruits are never the same thing as tithes in the Bible. Firstfruits were small token offerings while tithes were last-tenths counted only the full count of food and animals (Deut 26:1-4; Lev 27:30-34).

8. He says that tithing is for everybody, but HOLY biblical tithes could only be given by food producers inside Israel. Jesus, Peter and Paul did not qualify as tithe-payers.

For 4 views see: Perspective on Tithing, 4 Views, Broadman and Holman

 

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http://www.gofbw.com/news.asp?ID=11572
Undertaking stewardship education for the SBC

NASHVILLE (SBT)—There’s no denying that Southern Baptists individually, corporately, and as a denomination are lagging in exercising stewardship of God’s resources. While the Great Commission Resurgence Task Force recommends shifting primary responsibility for Cooperative Program promotion and stewardship education to state conventions, chairman Ronnie Floyd is counting on local pastors to teach individual Christians to honor God through tithing.
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Comment: Right. The responsibility should have never been otherwise according to the nature and purpose of the SBC.
Wrong. True biblical holy tithes were always only food from inside God’s holy land of Israel which He had miraculously increased. Although money was common even in Genesis and essential for sanctuary worship, money was never a tithe-able item. Jesus did not qualify as a tithe-payer and neither did all who lived outside Israel.
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“Remember, the only people who ever get offended with the declaration of biblical stewardship are the ones who give little to nothing at all to your church,” Floyd stated said in the news conference that followed the release of the task force interim report Feb. 22.
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Comment: This is an outright lie! The early church flourished without a tithing doctrine by using freewill grace giving principles. From Martin Luther to our times there are many top theologians and Bible schools which flourish without teaching tithing.
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“Christians need to repent of the sin of not honoring God with at least the first -tenth of their income,” Floyd said.
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Comments: Floyd is guilty of twisting scripture. In God’s Word the firstfruits and tithes are never the same thing. Firstfruits were very small token offerings per Deu 26:1-4 and Neh 10:35-37. Tithes were tenth-fruits counted after the full harvest or from every 10th animal (whether good or bad) per Num 18:21-28 and Neh 10:37-38. The first income of a Christian should be used to buy essential medicine, food and shelter per First Timothy 5:8.
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“Can you imagine the spiritual revival that would consume our churches if God’s people would obey God in giving? Can you imagine the opportunities of advancing the Gospel regionally, nationally, and globally if God’s people would obey God in giving?”
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Comment: Can you imagine how the church would be blessed if it obeyed God’s NT post Calvary principles of giving instead of Law principles?
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Seeking to discover “how Southern Baptists can work more faithfully and effectively together in serving Christ through the Great Commission,” the task force analyzed the means of funding that effort and reaffirmed the Cooperative Program as the preferred means of giving.
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Comment: The Great Commission brings the gospel to the Gentiles in the name of Most High God for all nations. The tithe was never used to convert OT Gentiles.
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Floyd added … encouraged pastors and churches to be unashamed in the teaching and preaching of biblical stewardship. . “Stand on the authority of the Word of God and call the people of God back to Him through the giving of the first tenth and additional offerings to your local church.”
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Comment: Again, OT tithes were never used for mission work to convert Gentiles. God commanded OT Israel NOT to intermingle with the Gentiles. In other words, POST CALVARY TITHING DOES NOT STAND ON BIBLICAL AUTHORITY. Nothing, absolutely nothing about OT tithing is followed by any church today. Numbers 18:21-28 is ignored. Pastors own and inherit property and they do not KILL those attempting to enter the sanctuary and worship God directly.
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“From the time I did my doctoral dissertation in the area of biblical stewardship until now, I have been astounded by the selfishness of God’s people,” Floyd said, recommending that every pastor preach a series of messages on biblical stewardship annually and reaffirm such principles in small group studies.
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Comment: I invite Floyd to enter into an extended in-depth dialog with me on the subject of tithing. He says he has already done the research for his doctorate.

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